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Just strip everything by default, fully tested version :-) #15339

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@layus layus commented May 9, 2016

This is the same PR as #15087, but fully tested and modified to take into account the discovered bugs.

Stdenv now supports the dontStripPath attribute which is the black-list version of the former stripDebugList and stripAllList (maintained for compatibility).

These three variables now support bash globbing, as explained in the updated manual.
stripDebugList = [ "bin" "lib/libpretty.so" "modules/*.so" ] are three valid expressions, expanded under $prefix/.

It appears that this PR can break stuff. Sometimes strip will fail with slightly different error messages than the expected ones. It seems to come from its structure, where the file type is recognised and handled by a custom handler, which in turn may fail with custom errors that we cannot (and dont want to) catch. For these cases, we will need to update the derivation wit a dontStripList argument. The only example of this I have encountered is swig. Some template text file presumably looks like one of the supported binary formats, but truncated. The error message is quite different from the basic truncation error.

A similar issue occurred with go which ships sample binaries for testing purposes. These are allegedly ELF's, but not to strip's liking.

Finally, I could not resist the pleasure of removing some superfluous stripDebugList's :-).

The build is successful for nix-build -A samba -A go -A flashplayer -A mesa_noglu -A apacheHttpd -A syslinux -A avrgcclibc, which is already a good panel of derivations. (Well, at least it takes a few hours on my quad-core, and at least one hour for gcc alone.) (BTW, the build is not successful for nss, but it's not my fault, it comes from d71a485#commitcomment-17408979, which in turn calls for a refactoring of my stripDirs function into a generic wrapper for find, but let's leave this for later.)

Closes #14821, #14822, #14823, #14824.

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@@ -26,8 +26,8 @@ stdenv.mkDerivation {

buildInputs = [ gmp mpfr libmpc zlib ];

# Make sure we don't strip the libraries in lib/gcc/avr.
stripDebugList= [ "bin" "avr/bin" "libexec" ];
# Make sure we don't strip the libraries in lib/gcc/avr and in avr/lib.
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Could we have a comment that explains why they shouldn't be stripped? Currently it just says the same as the definition below does

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Because if stripped linking with them tends to fail, presumably because there are some functionally relevant symbols there. Can't say more.

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I guess @domenkozar's point was that the comment should say that. As it is, the comment just repeats what's written below it anyway.

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My experience is that *.o files in avr/lib make strip fail because their format is not recognised.
Only avr-strip could possibly recognise these. I will update the patch to reflect this.
Later, it may be a good idea to strip these files with avr-strip.
@ambrop72, does it make sense to you ?

Anyway, I will update the comment.

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@layus IIRC, I wrote that original dontStripList, not because it failed to strip, but because to broke the toolchain. Actually my experience is that "strip" doesn't particularly care about the CPU architecture, it can strip symbols from "other" architectures.

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cc @edolstra

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vcunat commented May 20, 2016

I've got a problem in linux-config-4.4.10; I'll continue rebuilding my system to see if there are more. (I'm testing with #15405 included.)

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vcunat commented May 20, 2016

Ah, I think it has problems when an output is just a file directly, not a directory as usual. It tries to strip that non-ELF file and fails.

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layus commented May 20, 2016

Hmm, this is the intended behavior, except for the failing part obviously. What is the error produced by strip on that file? Also, are you sure it does not fail because of patchElf?

This is the main drawback of this patch. It tries to strip everything but may fail. It replaces false positives by false negatives...

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vcunat commented May 20, 2016

It might be something else. No error is printed.

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vcunat commented May 20, 2016

Example log:

post-installation fixup
shrinking RPATHs of ELF executables and libraries in /nix/store/6c348l0k96kxybv91xd2j75vw81f0rnn-linux-config-4.4.10
Stripping (with flags -S) the file /nix/store/6c348l0k96kxybv91xd2j75vw81f0rnn-linux-config-4.4.10.
builder for ‘/nix/store/x0fb8bzc5905bnn27v6zxx9lmafm9gb9-linux-config-4.4.10.drv’ failed with exit code 1

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layus commented May 20, 2016

I have found that adding "set -x" to the preFixup hook of the derivation is very useful, but I guess you already know that.

But the ultimate trick is

{
   # ...
   preFixup = ''
      set -x
      export PS4='+(''${BASH_SOURCE}:''${LINENO}): ''${FUNCNAME[0]:+''${FUNCNAME[0]}(): }'
   '';
}

(source : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17804007/how-to-show-line-number-when-executing-bash-script)

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vcunat commented May 20, 2016

Yes, I use set -x often, too. Thanks anyway. See #15405 (comment)

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layus commented May 20, 2016

Ok, I just pushed a fixup for the wrong return usage, and also added a null byte at the end of the file, because the input to stripAll should be null-terminated. Null-separated is not enough.

I wont be available this weekend, and the fix has not been tested. Feel free to use it or just wait till Monday for me to test it properly.

Thanks for looking into this anyway.

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vcunat commented May 20, 2016

This way of adding null byte seems not to work, judging from while read -r -d $'\0' f; do echo "$f"; done <<< "foo"$'\0'.

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layus commented May 26, 2016

I fixed the remaining issues:

  • does not fail when the prefix is a single file (i.e. use return 0 instead of bare return)
  • documented avr-gcc dontStripList.
  • really print a null-terminated string in bash (ouch!).

Could it be the last iteration? I hope so :-).

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layus commented Jun 8, 2016

@vcunat, could you give it another try ?

if [ -n "$stripAllList" ]; then
stripDirs "$stripAllList" "${stripAllFlags:--s}"
if [ -n "${stripAllList:-}" ]; then
stripDirs "${stripAllList:-}" "${stripAllFlags:--s}"
fi
fi
}
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Nitpick: in _doStrip I would change all :- to -, so that people can explicitly define those variables as empty without being overridden back to the default values. (Yes, one could define them as " ", but it seems nicer to allow empty string as well.)

Note that otherwise e.g. the first if will always fire, as * is used whenever the expansion could be empty.

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What does an empty string mean ? Strip everything or nothing ?
For now, passing an empty string to stripDirs strips nothing because it is interpreted as a gob pattern. This is why "" is replaced by "*".

If you want to disable stripping, why not use dontStrip ?

My fear is that if the variable is defined for some reason, or remains (say, from another output), the result may not be expected by the user.

I may however remove the useless if. Would that suit you ?

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I removed the if in bda09f6.

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layus commented Aug 9, 2016

@vcunat I just rebased everything and fixed some merge conflict. I know this is getting tedious, but could you give it another try ?

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vcunat commented Aug 9, 2016

Yeah, I'm sorry for that. This summer I've got way too many things to do and slight health problems atop.

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@layus @vcunat How's this going?

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How about not stripping everything by default, and instead calculating dependencies on stripped binaries but keeping the originals?

So build time dependencies will not be part of the dependency graph that way, hopefully.

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vcunat commented Dec 18, 2016

That's something completely different than what's addressed by this PR, as I remember it.

I'm sorry, I've been swamped by other nixpkgs issues, neglecting especially more work-intensive tickets like this one.

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layus commented Jan 8, 2017

How about not stripping everything by default, and instead calculating dependencies on stripped binaries but keeping the originals?

So build time dependencies will not be part of the dependency graph that way, hopefully.

@wmertens Not a bad idea, but this is a drastic change in the assumptions on the nix store. Dependencies are defined as the references to the nix-store contained in the package. Changing that is way beyond the scope of this PR.

I'm sorry, I've been swamped by other nixpkgs issues, neglecting especially more work-intensive tickets like this one.

@vcunat This PR is cpu-intensive, not really work-intensive :-). Would you mind staging it again ? or dedicating a separate hydra branch to this one. I have tested as much as I could with my limited tools. I am still trying to install hydra on my server. Its tougher than one would expect :-).

The issue is still present. On my current system, I get

$ blame () {comm -12 <(nix-store -qR /run/current-system | sort) <(nix-store -q --referrers "$1" | sort); }
$ blame /nix/store/njdkyj7lk0ghyaiyd73xm045vzddv1db-gcc-5.4.0
/nix/store/j5plvf0jn9ywd7amwb4f2zsddkqdq8j3-php-7.0.14          
/nix/store/k2087nwdxr4v9ychx8cick7g2cis801a-apr-1.5.2-dev
/nix/store/n5s3zqfnf10xg227yam0zmqwpjbg1xy5-libtool-2.4.
/nix/store/qbca0n2m92c5lx8iisgkjaxgwzyrdbix-apache-httpd-2.4.23
/nix/store/yrxm2jz2ki37f2zl80ln4higlygk1l5i-hydra-2016-04-15
/nix/store/njdkyj7lk0ghyaiyd73xm045vzddv1db-gcc-5.4.0
/nix/store/w303yxk4fs7adw6mq8jn5hj8bh0r47i3-gcc-wrapper-5.4.0
$ blame /nix/store/w303yxk4fs7adw6mq8jn5hj8bh0r47i3-gcc-wrapper-5.4.0
/nix/store/bzlniad3yydk7w7b51hk7qddy31sdyf2-rpm-4.13.0-rc1
/nix/store/k2087nwdxr4v9ychx8cick7g2cis801a-apr-1.5.2-dev
/nix/store/n5s3zqfnf10xg227yam0zmqwpjbg1xy5-libtool-2.4.6
/nix/store/vn240njwiw71sr7v2j5i2d5wsv3xb6ji-mariadb-client-10.1.19-bin
/nix/store/w303yxk4fs7adw6mq8jn5hj8bh0r47i3-gcc-wrapper-5.4.0

At least mariadb, php and apache should not depend on the gcc command/wrapper.

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vcunat commented Jan 8, 2017

@wmertens: such things are doable without any change to nix. There's a PR actually #15539, but whatever way you implement such a feature, it would always decrease purity, so it's not easy to get consensus on such a thing around NixOS.org.

layus referenced this pull request Mar 22, 2017
We did this for 2.2 (cc61d31) but
lost this for 2.4. This reduces the Apache closure size from 312 MiB
to 102 MiB (primarily by getting rid of -dev outputs).
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FRidh commented Jul 15, 2017

What's the status of this PR?

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vcunat commented Jul 15, 2017

I believe the status is that... I've been swamped and this "cosmetic" change (improving "only" logs) got left behind; I just haven't managed to properly review it.

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Ekleog commented Oct 13, 2018

(triage) Is anyone still working or willing to work on this PR? I'd guess other people than @vcunat are able to review it?

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danbst commented Jan 8, 2019

@FRidh @Ekleog see discussion #23648

  1. A way to figure out dontStripList automagically is needed. Otherwise it adds a bit of complication to package.
  2. To minimize whole world rebuilds, apply suggestion from Binaries are not stripped #21667 (comment) about --strip-all for files in libexec bin sbin
  3. Separate Hydra job to rebuild everything with this PR. Fix packages when needed
  4. After this is merged, stripDirs: Silence annoying 'File format not recognized' errors #23648 should be reverted
  5. strip: --strip-all in libexec, bin, sbin #31025 would become unneeded

So, it isn't an easy merge, requires time and patience. cc @infinisil

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layus commented Aug 13, 2019

Just closing old PRs that are too work-intensive. I guess #23648 (comment) got it quite right ;-).

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